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	<title>Comments on: GlusterFS Continued</title>
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		<title>By: Tony W.</title>
		<link>http://www.pc-hq.net/2008/10/glusterfs-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, interesting and complex.
I had read about a possible Raid6 setup down the road.  Very excited about that.
I like the simplicity of GlusterFS from what I&#039;ve read so far.  But again, same as I posted earlier, the documentation listed on their site is a little vague.  I&#039;d like to dive into it as much as I can so I will be able to post a howto of my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, interesting and complex.<br />
I had read about a possible Raid6 setup down the road.  Very excited about that.<br />
I like the simplicity of GlusterFS from what I&#8217;ve read so far.  But again, same as I posted earlier, the documentation listed on their site is a little vague.  I&#8217;d like to dive into it as much as I can so I will be able to post a howto of my own.</p>
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		<title>By: Onyxenator</title>
		<link>http://www.pc-hq.net/2008/10/glusterfs-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Onyxenator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wel yes, the original poster had a different setup, but that gave me the idea of the &quot;networked raid5&quot;-like system. I thought I found the holy grale, and it took me days to see I was wrong. 
So with glusterfs you need the extra storage for every extra copy you want to make, but I still think glusterfs is a great system. A raid6 like translator is on the roadmap btw. 

If you don&#039;t need the performance, and want a more efficient usage of the available storage space in a redundant way, have a look at cleversafe.org. I never tested it, and it seems a lot more complex to setup, but it looks very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wel yes, the original poster had a different setup, but that gave me the idea of the &#8220;networked raid5&#8243;-like system. I thought I found the holy grale, and it took me days to see I was wrong.<br />
So with glusterfs you need the extra storage for every extra copy you want to make, but I still think glusterfs is a great system. A raid6 like translator is on the roadmap btw. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t need the performance, and want a more efficient usage of the available storage space in a redundant way, have a look at cleversafe.org. I never tested it, and it seems a lot more complex to setup, but it looks very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at that list doesn&#039;t tell me much.  The setup the guy had was similar to the striping I have now, not a redundant FS, just striped across all drives.  I guess the only option would be to have something similar to Raid1.  Not something I really want since I want to keep as much data as I can.  :(
I guess I&#039;m getting confused on what this example actually implies.  
http://www.gluster.org/docs/index.php/Unify_over_AFR
Again that&#039;s one reason why I want to setup a simple server for testing.  Get to see it in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at that list doesn&#8217;t tell me much.  The setup the guy had was similar to the striping I have now, not a redundant FS, just striped across all drives.  I guess the only option would be to have something similar to Raid1.  Not something I really want since I want to keep as much data as I can.  <img src='http://www.pc-hq.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I guess I&#8217;m getting confused on what this example actually implies.<br />
<a href="http://www.gluster.org/docs/index.php/Unify_over_AFR" rel="nofollow">http://www.gluster.org/docs/index.php/Unify_over_AFR</a><br />
Again that&#8217;s one reason why I want to setup a simple server for testing.  Get to see it in action.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the comment!
Well that&#039;s one of the main reasons why I want to do some test runs to see exactly how it works.  I only started reading up about this on Friday afternoon and prolonged setup until today.  I&#039;ve been busy all morning and haven&#039;t had a chance to check it out any more...that and I need to find a spare drive somewhere.  All in all, you are probably right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the comment!<br />
Well that&#8217;s one of the main reasons why I want to do some test runs to see exactly how it works.  I only started reading up about this on Friday afternoon and prolonged setup until today.  I&#8217;ve been busy all morning and haven&#8217;t had a chance to check it out any more&#8230;that and I need to find a spare drive somewhere.  All in all, you are probably right.</p>
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		<title>By: Onyxenator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Onyxenator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hihi, you make the same mistake I made about a year ago.
It is not correct that it&#039;s a raid5-like setup an have 66% usable space.
If you are like me, you will say I am wrong, and try to prove it. I had long discussions on IRC to try to prove this. Anyways, it really took me some time to figure out I was wrong.

In short: afr of 2 volumes writes every file twice, so it uses double of its space, so it halves the capacity of the total volume

You can see this thread from the mailing list:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gluster-devel/2007-11/msg00128.html

The really big discussion must live in an IRC log somewhere ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hihi, you make the same mistake I made about a year ago.<br />
It is not correct that it&#8217;s a raid5-like setup an have 66% usable space.<br />
If you are like me, you will say I am wrong, and try to prove it. I had long discussions on IRC to try to prove this. Anyways, it really took me some time to figure out I was wrong.</p>
<p>In short: afr of 2 volumes writes every file twice, so it uses double of its space, so it halves the capacity of the total volume</p>
<p>You can see this thread from the mailing list:<br />
<a href="http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gluster-devel/2007-11/msg00128.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gluster-devel/2007-11/msg00128.html</a></p>
<p>The really big discussion must live in an IRC log somewhere <img src='http://www.pc-hq.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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